> * | A B > --+------ > A | B A > B | A A > >The unique cubical coalgebra is A but there is no square coalgebra. > >What I don't have is a counterexample with an _associative_ bifunctor. How about the positive integers with * as sum, with 1->3 as the only nonidentity arrow? The unique cubical coalgebra is 1 but there is no square coalgebra. Vaughan